A federal judge just ordered the government to start refunding the money from Trump’s illegal tariffs, proof that “tariffs are free money” was always economic fiction, and a reminder of what happens
I understand importers initially paid these, but most importers and retailers raised their prices. Refunding to them would now be a windfall and another wealth transfer from consumers to the business class. I still feel the refunds should be made to consumers. If they could issue stimulus checks in short order during the pandemic, they could do the same with tariff funds. Has anyone filed a class action suit?
Yes! Brian, thank you for adding that to the argument. I am sick of overpaying for everything. I am tired of not buying something simple for myself because I am out of money after paying the bills.
But there is also the tree guy, a family operation, who did work for me last summer. Sitting in his truck in my driveway one morning on his phone, yelling, upset. A new piece of equipment was coming in from Canada, stuck at the border, an extra $1400 he needed to pay because of the tariffs. I had one question for him: Did you vote for Twump? Silence.
Other than attacking Iran, he’s doing exactly what he said he’d do. Unless he has an overwhelming desire to see other people suffer, why would he vote for him? We surely need better education, but guess what else Trump is dismantling
Forget the companies, who is going to return the tariffs to THE CONSUMERS??? We have been paying exorbitant prices for foreign goods. Are companies just going to keep the money to add to their bottom line??? Surely, they won’t lower prices? Why are the consumers SCREWED?
A government and congress that are unwilling or unable to do the job they were elected to should be removed immediately. They should be replaced with qualified, competant people willing to govern accountably. Is they really too much to ask?
This whole game of sliding consumer money into corporate pockets resembles a planned endgame. It transfers money to the wealthy, after it has reduced foreign trade into the US. There are two more pieces. One, foreign companies did not invest in US manufacturing as pressured, which could have accelerated foreign impoverishment. Two, AI is being developed by the wealthy, in part the recipients-to-be of the paybacks, to neutralize the low cost of foreign inputs and thus lower them further. Canada is still the target. This isn't over yet.
Kudos for kackistropic as a new working word and cyron for MAGA. Milllions fell into the made up story rather than the real law on the books. We used to learn about tariffs in civics classes and in history classes so it says a lot about our education system, too. I'm sure some of are manually looking up interest on the amount we may have been cheated out of. Lots of luck. Remember when we only had to look at pre-T days when private contractors were all complaining and suing that they were cheated by T who would then turn around and sue them? He sued for huge amounts which they could not afford to fight. He knows how to keep anyone demanding money away from him by refusing to pay and suing for time. . But now it's our money he's playing with. former companies sued the contractors he hired, Our money is the taxes we pay and as he did with those other cheated people, he is trying to bankrupt us while he is ahead. All he cares about is that Epstein doesn't come back from the dead to point the body finger at his former best buddy and get him before he can complete his task. Bet he's already got a get away plan in mind....it pays to have friends in high places he is thinking...hmmm, maybe Saudi Arabia???
If the T admin drags the tariff pay back out long enough it will land in the next admin which could likely be a Dem. The Pubs will blame the Dems and the cylce of Kakitization will regurgitate in perpetuity. If only we could turn Kaki back to it's sweet Japanese meaning: Persimmon; considered “fruit of the gods,” a symbol of good fortune and longevity.
A Hopi elder once told us, "We do not pray for the rain, we pray being rain. We dance and we dance until we become the rain. Like attracts like." Maybe we need to kakistrate an alternative meaning that overcomes the negative destructive one?
As a "K" word myself, I approve of your new word, kakistrophic. As a Shakespearean scholar, I say you have 2000 more new words to catch up to the Bard, although not all of his clever words stuck, I believe you have a real shot here. I feel like I am in the middle of a shit storm created by this administration and the oligarchs paying them off. Thank you for pulling those two gems from the judges' ruling. He could have continued the "We live in a world of computers" with "and Ai." This kind of massive complicated number crunching is what a supercomputer does best.
You, my daughter Kate, and my daughter-in-law Katy should join with like-minded individuals for that class-action lawsuit, and create a Kateastrophe for the administration.
He started a war in the Middle East to bury the Epstein files. Now he has to start another war to bury his $130 billion and change he owes to American corporations. At this rate, he may soon run out of countries to invade...
I understand importers initially paid these, but most importers and retailers raised their prices. Refunding to them would now be a windfall and another wealth transfer from consumers to the business class. I still feel the refunds should be made to consumers. If they could issue stimulus checks in short order during the pandemic, they could do the same with tariff funds. Has anyone filed a class action suit?
Yes! Brian, thank you for adding that to the argument. I am sick of overpaying for everything. I am tired of not buying something simple for myself because I am out of money after paying the bills.
But there is also the tree guy, a family operation, who did work for me last summer. Sitting in his truck in my driveway one morning on his phone, yelling, upset. A new piece of equipment was coming in from Canada, stuck at the border, an extra $1400 he needed to pay because of the tariffs. I had one question for him: Did you vote for Twump? Silence.
Other than attacking Iran, he’s doing exactly what he said he’d do. Unless he has an overwhelming desire to see other people suffer, why would he vote for him? We surely need better education, but guess what else Trump is dismantling
It would be great if Trump had to pay out of his own pockets. Maybe his family and Elon could help.
I would laugh if I wasn't crying.
I suspect the tariff money went into his own pockets.
Forget the companies, who is going to return the tariffs to THE CONSUMERS??? We have been paying exorbitant prices for foreign goods. Are companies just going to keep the money to add to their bottom line??? Surely, they won’t lower prices? Why are the consumers SCREWED?
'Kakistrophic', That's it! Could be some cool graphics on a t-shirt.
It will be interesting to see if Trump put any of that money on his pocket. Oops!
In his pocket? More like in an offshore account run by Howard Lutnick.
You switched the "n" and "l" around in Howard's surname. But the thought is accurate!
Nutlick is a dope and a criminal and a pedophile. I was referring to the expat in the bank in Panama, another piece of shit.
All the shit piling up might make one connect "caca" with "kakistocracy"
Guess what country????
You mean as administrative fee.
A government and congress that are unwilling or unable to do the job they were elected to should be removed immediately. They should be replaced with qualified, competant people willing to govern accountably. Is they really too much to ask?
This whole game of sliding consumer money into corporate pockets resembles a planned endgame. It transfers money to the wealthy, after it has reduced foreign trade into the US. There are two more pieces. One, foreign companies did not invest in US manufacturing as pressured, which could have accelerated foreign impoverishment. Two, AI is being developed by the wealthy, in part the recipients-to-be of the paybacks, to neutralize the low cost of foreign inputs and thus lower them further. Canada is still the target. This isn't over yet.
I love the term kakistrophic! It is very appropriate and I plan to use it wherever a chance arises.
I paid a tariff on medication I ordered from Canada, not a lot, maybe $20, but if I thought I could get it from Trump I would try to apply for it.
Brilliant.
Kudos for kackistropic as a new working word and cyron for MAGA. Milllions fell into the made up story rather than the real law on the books. We used to learn about tariffs in civics classes and in history classes so it says a lot about our education system, too. I'm sure some of are manually looking up interest on the amount we may have been cheated out of. Lots of luck. Remember when we only had to look at pre-T days when private contractors were all complaining and suing that they were cheated by T who would then turn around and sue them? He sued for huge amounts which they could not afford to fight. He knows how to keep anyone demanding money away from him by refusing to pay and suing for time. . But now it's our money he's playing with. former companies sued the contractors he hired, Our money is the taxes we pay and as he did with those other cheated people, he is trying to bankrupt us while he is ahead. All he cares about is that Epstein doesn't come back from the dead to point the body finger at his former best buddy and get him before he can complete his task. Bet he's already got a get away plan in mind....it pays to have friends in high places he is thinking...hmmm, maybe Saudi Arabia???
If the T admin drags the tariff pay back out long enough it will land in the next admin which could likely be a Dem. The Pubs will blame the Dems and the cylce of Kakitization will regurgitate in perpetuity. If only we could turn Kaki back to it's sweet Japanese meaning: Persimmon; considered “fruit of the gods,” a symbol of good fortune and longevity.
A Hopi elder once told us, "We do not pray for the rain, we pray being rain. We dance and we dance until we become the rain. Like attracts like." Maybe we need to kakistrate an alternative meaning that overcomes the negative destructive one?
It seems congress only steps in when the president is an “D”.
As a "K" word myself, I approve of your new word, kakistrophic. As a Shakespearean scholar, I say you have 2000 more new words to catch up to the Bard, although not all of his clever words stuck, I believe you have a real shot here. I feel like I am in the middle of a shit storm created by this administration and the oligarchs paying them off. Thank you for pulling those two gems from the judges' ruling. He could have continued the "We live in a world of computers" with "and Ai." This kind of massive complicated number crunching is what a supercomputer does best.
Also, I want a fn refund.
You, my daughter Kate, and my daughter-in-law Katy should join with like-minded individuals for that class-action lawsuit, and create a Kateastrophe for the administration.
Love that!
He started a war in the Middle East to bury the Epstein files. Now he has to start another war to bury his $130 billion and change he owes to American corporations. At this rate, he may soon run out of countries to invade...
He went to war without consulting congress. We’ve already spent more than a billion dollars! He should have to repay that too!