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Katy Bolger's avatar

I like a little schadenfreude with my morning tea as well. This Epstein business is overwhelming and can bring many men down and I hope it does. But the problem is that like the cornered rat he is, the president will strike out screaming and flailing to distract. My worry is innocent Venezuelans will be killed, are already in the cross hairs of Pete Hogsbreath and for what? Venezuela does not export drugs into America. Plenty of countries do but are not being targeted. So why Venezuela? Well, they are weak and Pete and Donnie like to attack weak positions. Also, and here's the real deal: they have oil and there are some trumpie buddies who stand to make billions when we take over their oil fields. Follow the money, Mary, it always leads to that place where the stench is controlled by expensive exhaust fans.

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Waldo Littlefield's avatar

Follow the money and you’ll find the stench of corruption. Can’t you smell that smell? Makes you wonder why some people still can’t recognize the smell.

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Katy Bolger's avatar

You can get accustomed to anything, right? Even bad smells become normal after living in the stench for a while. Also, and not for nothing, while looking at something this morning having to do with Epstein's survivors, comments were on the right (of YouTube) and some of them were downright baffling:

She's a liar! This never happened! You are an idiot to believe these whores! They could have walked out! My children would never go with a stranger!

And I thought, are these people for real? And then I thought, Russia is working overtime releasing these bots. And then I thought, both of these things could be true.

The denial of stench (what's that smell? What smell?) is one thing but the denial of an Epstein victim's story is quite another. I truly hope that nobody's child needs to stand in front of a bank of microphones and ask for justice for their rape as a child. But if they do, please believe them.

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Christine Lee's avatar

The people who disbelieve these survivors truly astound me! NO-ONE is going to make up a story like that. Look the pain and suffering they've been through 😢 as well as threats and harassment

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Kasey Coff's avatar

I'd say both - that is, "real" deniers (let's face it, from amongst the MAGAts) and Russian (most likely) bots. There's not enough divisiveness from within but what our enemies have to see how much more dirt they can dig up.

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Waldo Littlefield's avatar

The “Heart of darkness” swells when it sees and paints its victims as commodities, unworthy, criminals, whores, and savages. Tale as old as time. If/when a critical mass people finds our shared humanity, the world will heal.

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Katy Bolger's avatar

Here's an idea: let's let women lead for a minute and see how that works out. Women are different and in a very good way. We grow life, we respect life and we respect others. Not all women, and not all others, but it could be a start.

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Waldo Littlefield's avatar

It’s not that easy. Find people without proven humanity, take them out of a two-party system controlled by hedge fund billionaires, convince people that a whole lot of other people with money in the game are willing to sacrifice their wealth for the good of humanity and get them elected in a system that is rife with corruption. No problem, right?

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Genie Shupe's avatar

It’s always about the oil with these people. (And the racism, sexism, and all the otherness you could name).

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Patricia Davis's avatar

I doubt there’s any less corrupt in so many …the other ‘poor states’ as America’s demise has taken first class to a whole different meaning ..the 10% of our population could care less, as they’re the richest …while the sicko-pants and an accumulation of GOP states followed riding coattails..it’s moral rot at the top ,complacency in the middle, and desperation on the bottom. The few who stand out , stand on the best ground, are well known within those categories.

That history says we’ll survive and rise above (again ) also says it will be repeated eventually. Maslow’s pyramid was always lean at the top. SCOTUS needs a thorough trim. Watch the Humprey’s executor rule ,let it not go down….Yea, keep yer powder dry, sleeves rolled up and boots on…it ain’t over yet.

Thanks, Mary . Such a treat🫶

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Katy Bolger's avatar

The Humphrey's Executor rule is being challenged in the SCOTUS right now. Without opening my eyes Imma gonna point to the court dismantling the protections it affords and letting the president do what he wants because, well, he's the president and they are corrupt.

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Patricia Davis's avatar

Yes, good eye.

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Katy Bolger's avatar

P.S. Always keep my powder dry. Thanks for reminding us, Mary and Patricia, wise words bear repeating.

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Jay Wilson's avatar

"And the rest of the press corps? They stood there in silence, watching their colleagues get verbally assaulted by the President of the United States, and not one of them stepped in."

You're right, the press corps needs to have a solidarity strategy. I'm just waiting for the day when one of them Stands Her Ground. and the next one backs her up, and so on...and has Boss Trump reeling back on his cankles.

It would be like a bomb going off on Air Force One.

Even MTG poked the bear and look, she's still standing. There is strength in numbers as we saw in the House vote. I think the rats are beginning to abandon a sinking ship...

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Carol Pladsen-Bloom's avatar

Love it when Mary makes me smile and stomp my fist in agreement. The first happened with reference to lawn chairs and the clerk checking microphones. The latter when she chastised media for not speaking up and for continuing to follow old don around to attempt to quote him. Report what he does and the consequences of what he does, not what he says. Let the comedians and others to transcribe that gobble de goop.

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Kasey Coff's avatar

Gah! Where to begin?

Re Epstein: I'm not, as a rule, especially paranoid or suspicious, but I have to wonder - how in hell did one man get away with so much for so long? Even if he had some "helpers," are so many people so vile they actively participated in this siht? Clearly they knew they were breaking the law, let alone harming children, else why the cover-ups?

Re Mohammed bin Salman: I have less... respect? regard? for him than for Trump, which is saying some. I watched him during the, ah, exchange between Trump and the press. Bin Salman sat there twiddling his thumbs and smirking. When he spoke, it was to shift the blame for Khashoggi and 9/11. The latter was particularly arrogant. How believable is his claim that Osama bin Laden singled out Saudis as highjackers in order to disrupt the relationship between Saudu Arabia and America? I call bullshit!

Re the public health and measles: I'm from a generation (boomers) that saw off the last of polio, measles, mumps, chicken pox - those "harmless" childhood diseases. I've always counted myself lucky I never contracted polio. I was 6 before the vaccine was widely available, and I've known several polio survivors with various residual disabilities. Who would risk that for their children?

By extension, who would risk measles? Or chicken pox, which sounds benign enough until you figure in secondary problems like pneumonia, encephalitis, and even sepsis. An anti-vaxer who refuses the shingles vaccination will surely wish they'd gotten it if they end up with shingles.

No health system is perfect, and science still doesn't have all the answers. But the US had the best record in the world for controlling and even eradicating the deadliest contagious diseases.

Had. Woe beside us at the next COVID-type pandemic. Next time, we won't be capable of developing a vaccination within months.

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Kasey Coff's avatar

Betide. This "updated" spell checker just arbitrarily changes words to what it seems to think they should be. I don't think AI is capable of taking over. Yet.

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Julie Bannerman's avatar

Trump and Friends are not a clown car, they’re a treason train.

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